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[[File:Dangerous HUD (purple - starboard-right view).jpg|thumb|right|300px|Dangerous HUD showing occluded view from starboard/right window]] | [[File:Dangerous HUD (purple - starboard-right view).jpg|thumb|right|300px|Dangerous HUD showing occluded view from starboard/right window]] | ||
== Windows == | == Windows == | ||
| + | [[File:Griff's cockpit.png|left|300px|Griff's cockpit]] | ||
| + | The argument for windows is simple - it is based on just looking at the ships!<br> | ||
| + | If the "windows" are ''not'' windows, what are they supposed to be? | ||
=== OXPs based on Windows === | === OXPs based on Windows === | ||
| − | *[[Dangerous HUD]] - shows occluded side window views, whilst rear view is from a viewscreen | + | :*[[User:Griff|Griff]] (Oolite's official ship-designer) seems to take this side of the debate. <br> |
| − | *[[Fer-delta-Lance]] - alpha-OXP of a ship with a cockpit sub-entity | + | See the 2013 analysis [https://bb.oolite.space/viewtopic.php?p=210756#p210756 here] of the screenshot to the left of one of his ships. <br> |
| − | + | And then have a good look at his ships on the [[Oolite Ships]] wiki page. | |
| − | ---- | + | :*[[Dangerous HUD]] - shows occluded side window views, whilst rear view is from a viewscreen |
| + | :*[[Fer-delta-Lance]] - alpha-OXP of a ship with a cockpit sub-entity | ||
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[[File:Yet another hud crit.gif|thumb|right|300px|Plagiarism HUD]] | [[File:Yet another hud crit.gif|thumb|right|300px|Plagiarism HUD]] | ||
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== Viewscreens == | == Viewscreens == | ||
| + | The arguments for viewscreens is more complex - one needs to measure the size of the ship, and then calculate the size of the "window". The "windows" are massive!! But then, what are they? See Smivs's analysis linked below and his Classic Ships OXP. | ||
=== OXPs based on Viewscreens === | === OXPs based on Viewscreens === | ||
*[[Killer Wolf's Dynamic HUD]] | *[[Killer Wolf's Dynamic HUD]] | ||
*[https://bb.oolite.space/viewtopic.php?t=8406 Plagiarism HUD] | *[https://bb.oolite.space/viewtopic.php?t=8406 Plagiarism HUD] | ||
| − | *[[The Classic Ships OXP]] - | + | *[[The Classic Ships OXP]] - Smivs's "front windows" are portrayed as a Star-Trek like deflector or sensor panel |
=== Proponents for Viewscreens === | === Proponents for Viewscreens === | ||
| − | *Smivs argued for Viewscreens (see [https://bb.oolite.space/viewtopic.php?p=142961#p142961 here], [https://bb.oolite.space/viewtopic.php?p=202722#p202722 here] and [https://bb.oolite.space/viewtopic.php?p=228020#p228020 here]. | + | *Smivs argued for Viewscreens (see [https://bb.oolite.space/viewtopic.php?p=142961#p142961 here], [https://bb.oolite.space/viewtopic.php?p=202722#p202722 here] and [https://bb.oolite.space/viewtopic.php?p=228020#p228020 here]). His second post argues from Elite canon, his third argues from "window" sizes. |
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Latest revision as of 14:15, 5 July 2026
When you are flying, are you staring out of a window or gazing into a viewscreen?
Contents
Overview
While the vanilla game code does not address this issue, it is found in debates on the Bulletin Board and some OXPs assume one or the other is true.
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Windows
The argument for windows is simple - it is based on just looking at the ships!
If the "windows" are not windows, what are they supposed to be?
OXPs based on Windows
- Griff (Oolite's official ship-designer) seems to take this side of the debate.
- Griff (Oolite's official ship-designer) seems to take this side of the debate.
See the 2013 analysis here of the screenshot to the left of one of his ships.
And then have a good look at his ships on the Oolite Ships wiki page.
- Dangerous HUD - shows occluded side window views, whilst rear view is from a viewscreen
- Fer-delta-Lance - alpha-OXP of a ship with a cockpit sub-entity
Viewscreens
The arguments for viewscreens is more complex - one needs to measure the size of the ship, and then calculate the size of the "window". The "windows" are massive!! But then, what are they? See Smivs's analysis linked below and his Classic Ships OXP.
OXPs based on Viewscreens
- Killer Wolf's Dynamic HUD
- Plagiarism HUD
- The Classic Ships OXP - Smivs's "front windows" are portrayed as a Star-Trek like deflector or sensor panel
Proponents for Viewscreens
- Smivs argued for Viewscreens (see here, here and here). His second post argues from Elite canon, his third argues from "window" sizes.
Links
Pilot models for ships (2009) includes this argument (the pilot models were for windows!).
