The Eight - Revision history

Cholmondely: /* Syncretist: Selezen (2007) */ Added a link

2026-03-27T12:22:31Z

‎Syncretist: Selezen (2007): Added a link

Cholmondely: Added Phantorgorth's population totals

2025-05-19T11:38:27Z

Added Phantorgorth's population totals

Cholmondely: Overhauled OXP list

2025-05-13T21:38:43Z

Overhauled OXP list

Cholmondely: Added Maps

2025-05-13T11:06:59Z

Added Maps

Cholmondely: Update

2025-05-13T09:59:17Z

Update

Cholmondely: /* Links */ Added ideas for a G9

2024-05-22T10:40:41Z

‎Links: Added ideas for a G9

Phkb: Updating BB links

2024-03-18T14:27:26Z

Updating BB links

Phkb: Updating BB links

2024-02-29T03:35:28Z

Updating BB links

Cholmondely: /* List of OXP's relevant to specific Galaxies */ Tweaks

2024-02-04T03:13:02Z

‎List of OXP's relevant to specific Galaxies: Tweaks

Cholmondely: /* On one-way travel between The Eight */ Added a_c's insights

2023-12-26T23:54:03Z

‎On one-way travel between The Eight: Added a_c's insights

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	The reason they are colloquially known as Galaxies is that when the first wormhole was discovered, the chappie that went through reported back that all the constellations and worlds were different. His first hypothesis was that the wormhole led to another galaxy, and so they were labelled Galaxies. It would be another hundred or so years until anyone worked out that these areas were actually star clusters in the same galaxy, but by then the name had kind of stuck.		The reason they are colloquially known as Galaxies is that when the first wormhole was discovered, the chappie that went through reported back that all the constellations and worlds were different. His first hypothesis was that the wormhole led to another galaxy, and so they were labelled Galaxies. It would be another hundred or so years until anyone worked out that these areas were actually star clusters in the same galaxy, but by then the name had kind of stuck.
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		+	And see also [https://bb.oolite.space/viewtopic.php?p=12375#p12375 Selezen (2007)] where he links in the change between [[Classic Elite]] & [[Frontier]].

	=== [[Lore\|Purist]]: [[User:Cim\|Cim]] (2014) ===		=== [[Lore\|Purist]]: [[User:Cim\|Cim]] (2014) ===

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 *[[Sector8/Index|G8]] Xrata
 :(taken from the [[Archimedes Elite|Archimedes]] version of [[Classic Elite]]).
 === OXPs ===

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 ==== List of OXP's relevant to specific Galaxies ====
 :'''Galaxy 2'''
 *[[BlackjacksBullion OXP]] mission
-*[[Ionics]] mission - flavours the northeast corner
+*[[Ionics]] mission - flavours the northeast corner (old OXP)
 :'''Galaxy 3'''
 *[[Aquatics OXP]] - flavours [[Sector3/Ribiara|Ribiara]], adds ships, but also adds in one of the Wonders of the Ooniverse!
 *[[Curse of the Black Sunspot]] mission
-*[[Skrounk All-Stars Limited]] - ships
+*[[Skrounk All-Stars Limited]] - ships (old OXP)
 *[[TCAT OXP|To Catch A Thargoid (TCAT)]] mission
 :'''Galaxy 4'''
 *[[Deposed]] mission
 *[[Love Cats]] mission - flavours [[Sector4/Teance|Teance]]
-*[[Trident Down]] flavours the galaxy
+*[[Trident Down]] flavours the galaxy (old OXP)
 :'''Galaxy 5'''
 *[[Coyote's Run]] mission - flavours the north-east corner
-*[[Koneko Industries]] - ships
+*[[Koneko Industries]] - ships (old OXP)
 *[[Resistance Commander]] mission - flavours the southern edge
 :'''Galaxy 6'''
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 *[[Iron Raven]]
 :'''Galaxies 1-8''' - flavours the entire Ooniverse
-*[[Thargoid Wars]] - actually only G2-8
+*[[Thargoid Wars]] - actually only G2-8 (old OXP)
-*[[Xeptatl's Sword]] starts in G5, space opera mission
+*[[Xeptatl's Sword]] starts in G5, space opera mission (old OXP)
 Note that there are enough [[:Category:Retextures OXPs|Retexture OXPs]] to have different-looking vanilla game ships in each of the Eight

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 [[File:Galaxy01O1.png|800px|thumb|right|Santaari: the first chart/galaxy/system/sector/octant]]
 [[File:Legend-O.png|500px|thumb|right|Map Legend]]
 == Names of the Eight ==
 *[[Sector1/Index|G1]] Santaari
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 As to the matter discussed above of GalCop being unaware of the existence of the Feds and Imperials, this simply cannot be the case.  Earth is only 20 light years away from the upper edge of GalCop space, and there is not enough space there for there to be anything of major consequence blocking them off.  A war zone would not be likely due to the fact that Feds and GalCop would both be involved in the conflict, with the area being so close to Earth. Add to this the fact that Achenar falls within the GalCop map for Gal1.  There is no way of twisting or turning the map enough to get Achenar out of the way.  Hence, Achenar is there – like it or not.
-[[File:Phantorgorth's musings (species vs galaxies).png|640px|thumb|right|Phantorgorth's musings on species vis-a-vis galaxies (Nothing to do with Selezen!)]]
 The Galactic Federation (or GalFederation) is mentioned a few times in the manual, so we know from this that GalCop is aware of the Federation and vice-versa, since 2845 saw the publication of a treatise on the Federation itself – so GalCop are obviously watching and commenting on their neighbouring organisation.  This raises the original question again – where is Earth in Elite?  It can be surmised that Earth is still around, it is just impossible to travel to it.  The knowledge that both Federation and Empire require payment of a huge fine to allow pilots starting at Lave in Frontier to dock at any of their stations would point to some sort of conflict – possibly a political upheaval or cataclysmic event that resulted in those affiliated with GalCop being banished or exiled from Federation / Empire space.
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 *[[Alien Items|Nine]] by [[Drew Wagar]]: - About an attempt to reach the ninth chart
+[[File:Phantorgorth's musings (species vs galaxies).png|640px|thumb|right|[[User:PG1|Phantorgorth]]'s musings on species vis-a-vis galaxies]]
 == Links ==
 *[https://bb.oolite.space/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=6905 Do Galaxies get harder as you go up?] (2009) - ''do you really want to know this, or would you rather find out''?

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 [[File:Galaxy01O1.png|800px|thumb|right|Santaari: the first chart/galaxy/system/sector/octant]]
-[[File:Legend-O.png|thumb|right|Map Legend]]
+[[File:Legend-O.png|500px|thumb|right|Map Legend]]
 == Names of the Eight ==
 *[[Sector1/Index|G1]] Santaari
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 === OXPs ===
 *[[Galaxy Names OXP]] by [[User:Wildeblood|Wildeblood]] - also downloadable through the in-game [[Expansions Manager]] (an Ambience .oxp): puts the galaxy names onto the F6 screen.
 *[[Distant Realms]]  by [[User:Wildeblood|Wildeblood]] puts regional names (Old Worlds, Pulsar Worlds, Xexedi Cluster ''etc'') on the F6 screen
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 :'''Galaxy 8'''
 *[[Iron Raven]]
-:'''Galaxies 2-8''' - flavours the entire galaxy
+:'''Galaxies 1-8''' - flavours the entire Ooniverse
-*[[Thargoid Wars]]
+*[[Thargoid Wars]] - actually only G2-8
 *[[Xeptatl's Sword]] starts in G5, space opera mission
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 *[https://bb.oolite.space/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=5166 Galaxy 2 - places to go- must see...] (2008)
 *[https://bb.oolite.space/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=21440 Galaxy 4 (Angiana)] (2023) Discussion of the political peculiarities of this galaxy
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 === Galaxy Guide ===

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 *[[Maps]] for a selection of different ones - including OXPs
 *[[Galaxy Seeds]] for notes on transcending/changing The Eight.
 *[[Geography]]
 *[https://bb.oolite.space/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=5166 Galaxy 2 - places to go- must see...] (2008)

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 == Links ==
-*[http://oolite.bb.oolite.space/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=6905 Do Galaxies get harder as you go up?] (2009) - ''do you really want to know this, or would you rather find out''?
+*[https://bb.oolite.space/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=6905 Do Galaxies get harder as you go up?] (2009) - ''do you really want to know this, or would you rather find out''?
 *[[Lore]] for discussion of '''Purism''' & '''Syncretism'''.
 *[[History]] for Purist & Syncretist histories of The Eight

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 *[[The Traders Almanach]] - see bottom of that page: trading tips for Galaxy 1. Another book for the [[Ship's Library OXP]].
-* [http://www.aegidian.org/bb/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=20670 Dangerous Galaxies] (Erick Costa 2020) changes politics in galaxies so that Galaxy 1 is more Corporate, and as one moves to Galaxy 8 they become more Anarchic.
+* [https://bb.oolite.space/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=20670 Dangerous Galaxies] (Erick Costa 2020) changes politics in galaxies so that Galaxy 1 is more Corporate, and as one moves to Galaxy 8 they become more Anarchic.
 *See [[Maps]] for links to more OXPs
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 [[User:Cody|Cody]]'s Theory:
-{{QuoteText|Text= Eight small globular clusters co-orbiting a dormant Super Massive Black Hole (SMBH), the proximity of which dictates how one can travel between octants.|Source=([http://www.aegidian.org/bb/viewtopic.php?p=272868#p272868 Cody (2020)])}}
+{{QuoteText|Text= Eight small globular clusters co-orbiting a dormant Super Massive Black Hole (SMBH), the proximity of which dictates how one can travel between octants.|Source=([https://bb.oolite.space/viewtopic.php?p=272868#p272868 Cody (2020)])}}
 [[User:Stranger|Stranger]]'s Codicil to Cody's Theory
-{{QuoteText|Text= It is hard to imagine such an arrangement in common space - a SMBH must be extremely huge to prevent ripping stellar clusters with tidal forces. But if we assume a fast-spinning SMBH with a passable wormhole in witchspace, connecting eight distant regions... hmm, it can explain the one-way Galactic Hyperdrive route!|Source=([http://www.aegidian.org/bb/viewtopic.php?p=272878#p272878 Stranger (2020)])}}
+{{QuoteText|Text= It is hard to imagine such an arrangement in common space - a SMBH must be extremely huge to prevent ripping stellar clusters with tidal forces. But if we assume a fast-spinning SMBH with a passable wormhole in witchspace, connecting eight distant regions... hmm, it can explain the one-way Galactic Hyperdrive route!|Source=([https://bb.oolite.space/viewtopic.php?p=272878#p272878 Stranger (2020)])}}
 i.e The direction of spin determines the direction of travel within The Eight.
 A_C in the significance for the game:
-  Need to be careful here with reverse galactic jumping. We have had a similar discussion on the internal devs googlewave some time ago and although we had code ready to commit for it, we decided to not go ahead. Jumping to a new galaxy is supposed to be quite an event and making it possible to backtrack takes away the event's importance. Additionally, the main reason for clearing one's criminal record disappears the moment you enable backwards galactic jumps, because in that case, if I want a quick way to clean legal status without changing my present situation, I can jump backwards then forwards and return to my original system without the criminal tag. So, although this might be an idea for moving efficiently through 40 or so galaxies and is exciting at first glance, it does have its side effects on gameplay. [http://www.aegidian.org/bb/viewtopic.php?p=105356#p105356 another_commander] (2010)
+  Need to be careful here with reverse galactic jumping. We have had a similar discussion on the internal devs googlewave some time ago and although we had code ready to commit for it, we decided to not go ahead. Jumping to a new galaxy is supposed to be quite an event and making it possible to backtrack takes away the event's importance. Additionally, the main reason for clearing one's criminal record disappears the moment you enable backwards galactic jumps, because in that case, if I want a quick way to clean legal status without changing my present situation, I can jump backwards then forwards and return to my original system without the criminal tag. So, although this might be an idea for moving efficiently through 40 or so galaxies and is exciting at first glance, it does have its side effects on gameplay. [https://bb.oolite.space/viewtopic.php?p=105356#p105356 another_commander] (2010)
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 == Links ==
-*[http://oolite.aegidian.org/bb/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=6905 Do Galaxies get harder as you go up?] (2009) - ''do you really want to know this, or would you rather find out''?
+*[http://oolite.bb.oolite.space/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=6905 Do Galaxies get harder as you go up?] (2009) - ''do you really want to know this, or would you rather find out''?
 *[[Lore]] for discussion of '''Purism''' & '''Syncretism'''.
 *[[History]] for Purist & Syncretist histories of The Eight
-*[http://www.aegidian.org/bb/viewtopic.php?p=28930#p28930 (2007) thread] with Captain Hesperus & Selezen above. See Daddyhoggy's teenage solution!
+*[https://bb.oolite.space/viewtopic.php?p=28930#p28930 (2007) thread] with Captain Hesperus & Selezen above. See Daddyhoggy's teenage solution!
-*[http://aegidian.org/bb/viewtopic.php?p=28466#p28466 (2007) thread] - treating the eight as part of the milky way and as the 8 faces of a cube inside it.
+*[https://bb.oolite.space/viewtopic.php?p=28466#p28466 (2007) thread] - treating the eight as part of the milky way and as the 8 faces of a cube inside it.
 <br>
 *[[Maps]] for a selection of different ones - including OXPs
 *[[Galaxy Seeds]] for notes on transcending/changing The Eight.
 *[[Geography]]
-*[http://www.aegidian.org/bb/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=5166 Galaxy 2 - places to go- must see...] (2008)
+*[https://bb.oolite.space/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=5166 Galaxy 2 - places to go- must see...] (2008)
-*[http://aegidian.org/bb/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=21440 Galaxy 4 (Angiana)] (2023) Discussion of the political peculiarities of this galaxy
+*[https://bb.oolite.space/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=21440 Galaxy 4 (Angiana)] (2023) Discussion of the political peculiarities of this galaxy
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 === Galaxy Guide ===
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 === Duplicated System Names ===
-*[http://aegidian.org/bb/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11818 Duplicated System Names] (2012)
+*[https://bb.oolite.space/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11818 Duplicated System Names] (2012)
 [[Category:Concepts]]