New Cargoes - Revision history

Cholmondely: /* Links */ Added another

2025-08-19T13:32:21Z

‎Links: Added another

Cholmondely: Added cbr's New Cargoes icon

2024-06-16T13:10:22Z

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Cholmondely: /* Links */ Added more

2024-05-08T12:45:00Z

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Phkb: Updating BB links

2024-02-29T02:13:58Z

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Phkb: /* Other OXPs */

2024-02-24T07:02:57Z

‎Other OXPs

Phkb: /* Other OXPs */

2024-02-24T07:02:44Z

‎Other OXPs

Phkb: /* New Cargoes for OXP writers */

2024-02-24T07:02:15Z

‎New Cargoes for OXP writers

Phkb at 07:00, 24 February 2024

2024-02-24T07:00:13Z

Cholmondely: /* Musings */ Updated for Phkb's v.2.0

2023-12-26T18:38:17Z

‎Musings: Updated for Phkb's v.2.0

Cholmondely: /* Links */ Added New Cargoes 2.0 thread

2023-12-13T18:41:44Z

‎Links: Added New Cargoes 2.0 thread

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 *[[New_Cargoes_Trading_Advice|Transcript of the introductory lecture in the "advanced trading" course]] at Lave Academy.
 *[https://bb.oolite.space/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=18555 Auctions - How can you be at the right place at the right time?] (2017)
 *[https://bb.oolite.space/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=21469 New Cargoes 2.0] Phkb's update (2023)
 == Relevant OXPs ==

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	== Why? ==		== Why? ==
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	{{QuoteText\|Text=I really enjoy the variety and deepness New Cargoes gives to the game.\|Source=([https://bb.oolite.space/viewtopic.php?p=192210#p192210 Spara])}}		{{QuoteText\|Text=I really enjoy the variety and deepness New Cargoes gives to the game.\|Source=([https://bb.oolite.space/viewtopic.php?p=192210#p192210 Spara])}}

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	*[https://bb.oolite.space/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=21469 New Cargoes 2.0] Phkb's update (2023)		*[https://bb.oolite.space/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=21469 New Cargoes 2.0] Phkb's update (2023)
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		+	== Relevant OXPs ==
		+	*[[Famous Planets]] gives useful information on the F7 screen
		+	*[[Hermitage]] links in with this OXP
		+	*[[Riredi OXP]] adds in to this OXP
		+	*[[Tianve OXP]] adds in to this OXP

	== Gameplay and Balance Indicator ==		== Gameplay and Balance Indicator ==

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 == Why? ==
-{{QuoteText|Text=I really enjoy the variety and deepness New Cargoes gives to the game.|Source=([http://aegidian.org/bb/viewtopic.php?p=192210#p192210 Spara])}}
+{{QuoteText|Text=I really enjoy the variety and deepness New Cargoes gives to the game.|Source=([https://bb.oolite.space/viewtopic.php?p=192210#p192210 Spara])}}
 One of the things that slightly disappointed me about the original Elite was that you couldn't really follow in the footsteps of the fictional traders. There's a bit in the [[Dark Wheel]] where Alex Ryder is at Xezaor looking for cargo, notices that Durassion ore is available at a good price, and might sell well at Lave. But it's a long journey, and the travel would be worthless if a better deposit was found. He decides it's too risky and looks elsewhere. Later fiction has continued much the same idea that your basic Agri-Ind pair of planets won't generally cover a trader's expenses, and so longer and riskier trade routes develop.
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 {{QuoteText|Text=New Cargoes attempts to rework all the legal/illegal configuration by turning everything legal at base, and then applying legal penalties via code, essentially bypassing the core game code. It is not certain that the method used to nullify the illegal goods actually works, which means you could be double-pinged for any infringement.
-And this is also one of the main reasons New Cargoes is incompatible with Phkb's [[Smugglers - The Galactic Underworld|Smugglers OXP]], which is making goods illegal left, right and centre.|Source=([http://www.aegidian.org/bb/viewtopic.php?p=280346#p280346 Phkb (2021)])}}
+And this is also one of the main reasons New Cargoes is incompatible with Phkb's [[Smugglers - The Galactic Underworld|Smugglers OXP]], which is making goods illegal left, right and centre.|Source=([https://bb.oolite.space/viewtopic.php?p=280346#p280346 Phkb (2021)])}}
 ==Change log==
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 *[[New_Cargoes_Trading_Advice|Transcript of the introductory lecture in the "advanced trading" course]] at Lave Academy.
-*[http://aegidian.org/bb/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=18555 Auctions - How can you be at the right place at the right time?] (2017)
+*[https://bb.oolite.space/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=18555 Auctions - How can you be at the right place at the right time?] (2017)
-*[http://www.aegidian.org/bb/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=21469 New Cargoes 2.0] Phkb's update (2023)
+*[https://bb.oolite.space/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=21469 New Cargoes 2.0] Phkb's update (2023)
 == Gameplay and Balance Indicator ==
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 |author = [[User:cim|cim]]
 |download = [[#Download|See Download]]
-|feedback = [http://aegidian.org/bb/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=11519 BB-Link (v1.2.3)] [http://aegidian.org/bb/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=21469 BB-Link (v2.0)]
+|feedback = [https://bb.oolite.space/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=11519 BB-Link (v1.2.3)] [https://bb.oolite.space/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=21469 BB-Link (v2.0)]
 }}
 [[Category:The Dark Wheel]]

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 * [[Illegal_Goods_Tweak_OXP|Illegal Goods Tweak]], if installed, should be at least version 1.7
-Warning: [[Smugglers]] is incompatible with New Cargoes (they both involve licenses for regionally banned goods, and New Cargoes was never updated to the Trade-goods.plist, leading to issues with illegality). Versipn 2.0 is now compatible with Smugglers.
+Warning: [[Smugglers]] is incompatible with New Cargoes (they both involve licenses for regionally banned goods, and New Cargoes was never updated to the Trade-goods.plist, leading to issues with illegality). Version 2.0 is now compatible with Smugglers.
 [[File:NewCargoes Digebiti.png|thumb|right|600px|TraderNet newsflash]]

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 "New Cargoes provides a flexible framework for other OXPs to add extra cargoes and trade opportunities. See the [[NewCargoesAPI|New Cargoes API reference]] for more information" (Cim, 2013).
-[s]Sadly, New Cargoes was written ''before'' the introduction of the [[Trade-goods.plist]] with Oolite v.1.81, and never updated for it, so its utility in this regard is now somewhat spotty (Cholmondeley 2021).[/s] Version 2.0 now works with the current versions of Oolite.
+Sadly, New Cargoes was written ''before'' the introduction of the [[Trade-goods.plist]] with Oolite v.1.81, and never updated for it, so its utility in this regard is now somewhat spotty (Cholmondeley 2021). Version 2.0 now works with the current versions of Oolite.
 === Disclaimer ===

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 ==Installation==
 *Downloadable through the in-game [[Expansions Manager]]
-*The current version of New Cargoes is 1.2.3. [http://cim.sotl.org.uk/games/files/oolite/New_Cargoes_1.2.3.oxz Download 1.2.3] and install in the usual way. This moves access to the New Cargoes trading to the new Interfaces screen (F4)
+*The current version of New Cargoes is 2.1 [[Media:NewCargoes_2.1.oxz|NewCargoes_2.1.oxz]]
 ===Other OXPs===
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 * [[Illegal_Goods_Tweak_OXP|Illegal Goods Tweak]], if installed, should be at least version 1.7
-Warning: [[Smugglers]] is incompatible with New Cargoes (they both involve licenses for regionally banned goods, and New Cargoes was never updated to the Trade-goods.plist, leading to issues with illegality).
+[s]Warning: [[Smugglers]] is incompatible with New Cargoes (they both involve licenses for regionally banned goods, and New Cargoes was never updated to the Trade-goods.plist, leading to issues with illegality).[/s] Versipn 2.0 is now compatible with Smugglers.
 [[File:NewCargoes Digebiti.png|thumb|right|600px|TraderNet newsflash]]
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 "New Cargoes provides a flexible framework for other OXPs to add extra cargoes and trade opportunities. See the [[NewCargoesAPI|New Cargoes API reference]] for more information" (Cim, 2013).
-Sadly, New Cargoes was written ''before'' the introduction of the [[Trade-goods.plist]] with Oolite v.1.81, and never updated for it, so its utility in this regard is now somewhat spotty (Cholmondeley 2021).
+[s]Sadly, New Cargoes was written ''before'' the introduction of the [[Trade-goods.plist]] with Oolite v.1.81, and never updated for it, so its utility in this regard is now somewhat spotty (Cholmondeley 2021).[/s] Version 2.0 now works with the current versions of Oolite.
 === Disclaimer ===
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 ==Change log==
 * 1.2.3: Fix bugs with save/load of regional data and pricing of fetch contracts. Thanks to Solonar and Keeper for reports.
 * 1.2.2: Fix serious bug with losing cargo on launch. Thanks to Solonar for patient diagnosis.
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 ==Quick Facts==
 {{Infobox OXPb| title = New Cargoes
-|version = 1.2.3
+|version = 2.1
-|release = 2013-02-09
+|release = 2024-02-24
 |features = New cargoes and trade contracts
 |license = CC-BY-SA 3
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 |author = [[User:cim|cim]]
 |download = [[#Download|See Download]]
-|feedback = [http://aegidian.org/bb/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=11519 BB-Link]
+|feedback = [http://aegidian.org/bb/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=11519 BB-Link (v1.2.3)] [http://aegidian.org/bb/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=21469 BB-Link (v2.0)]
 }}
 [[Category:The Dark Wheel]]

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 ==Musings==
-This OXP is truly brilliant! It makes trading much more complex and realistic. For example, the new cargoes you find can be either cheap local products or more expensive items which have been imported - and you need to work out which! Prices also vary regionally.
+This OXP is truly brilliant!
 It brings some of the [[Lore]] to life.
 Sadly, <br>
-) it was never updated for Oolite v.1.82 - so the functioning of the illegal trade may not properly work. See [http://www.aegidian.org/bb/viewtopic.php?p=249637#p249637 here] (Phkb, 2016).<br>
+) it is clunky. Needing to shift backwards and forwards between the F4 & F8 screens is not great (one presumes that were thoughts of using the then new F8F8 screen, but they were never implemented). There is no obvious sign on the F8 screen that the new cargo ''is'' a much more expensive "new cargo". <br>
-) it is clunky. Needing to shift backwards and forwards between the F4 & F8 screens is not great (one presumes that were thoughts of using the then new F8F8 screen, but they were never implemented). There is no obvious sign on the F8 screen that the new cargo ''is'' a much more expensive "new cargo". <br>
+) There are a handful of oddities mentioned on the sector system pages which could do with being included ''eg'': [[Sector1/Digebiti|Digebitian duelling pistols]], [[Sector1/Tionisla|Tionislan hunting crossbows]] & [[Sector1/Lave|Lavese bacons]]. These seem to have originally come from [[The Traders Almanach]] - and there are a handful of others such as the Bemearean walnut wood used for the Fer-de-Lance dashboards.
 ==Links==

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	*[http://aegidian.org/bb/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=18555 Auctions - How can you be at the right place at the right time?] (2017)		*[http://aegidian.org/bb/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=18555 Auctions - How can you be at the right place at the right time?] (2017)
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		+	*[http://www.aegidian.org/bb/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=21469 New Cargoes 2.0] Phkb's update (2023)

	== Gameplay and Balance Indicator ==		== Gameplay and Balance Indicator ==