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Phkb: Updating BB links

2024-02-29T01:39:01Z

Updating BB links

Cholmondely: /* Mechanics */ Added in Disembodied's lengthy disquisition

2023-06-19T18:30:40Z

‎Mechanics: Added in Disembodied's lengthy disquisition

Cholmondely: /* Mechanics */ Added another

2023-05-21T15:03:37Z

‎Mechanics: Added another

Cholmondely: Tweaks, links etc.

2021-08-12T21:02:28Z

Tweaks, links etc.

Cholmondely: Tagged as Equipment

2021-07-20T12:26:03Z

Tagged as Equipment

Cholmondely: Emphasis

2021-06-04T14:20:07Z

Emphasis

Cholmondely: Link!

2021-03-24T22:43:41Z

Link!

Cholmondely: Added mechanics discussion

2021-02-28T12:15:21Z

Added mechanics discussion

Cholmondely: Added a bit more!

2021-02-27T19:10:06Z

Added a bit more!

Cholmondely: /* OXPs */ Added Ship Configuration OXP

2021-02-26T10:50:15Z

‎OXPs: Added Ship Configuration OXP

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 There seem to be two main theories about the workings of the engine. These differ on their approach to Newtonian physics. The '''auto-compensation''' approach holds that the Newtonian underlying reality is masked by the astrogation computer, which corrects the flying experience to make it seem non-Newtonian. The '''phlogiston''' approach sticks with non-Newtonian physics and is rather more dramatic!
-See the discussion in [http://www.aegidian.org/bb/viewtopic.php?p=92038#p92038 2009]. The following points were made:
+See the discussion in [https://bb.oolite.space/viewtopic.php?p=92038#p92038 2009]. The following points were made:
 *We have ''speed control'' rather than ''thrust control'' (phonebook)
 *Debate about a faulty auto-compensation theory, assuming retro-thrusters which the astrogation computer uses for ''correcting'' flight.
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 Trawling through the BB will reveal other such discussions.
-*2007: [http://www.aegidian.org/bb/viewtopic.php?p=39529#p39529 Disembodied's original theory] - see later discussion
+*2007: [https://bb.oolite.space/viewtopic.php?p=39529#p39529 Disembodied's original theory] - see later discussion
-*2008: [http://www.aegidian.org/bb/viewtopic.php?p=57695#p57695 Selezen on engine plumes, Newtonian Physics, propulsion & artificial gravity] (2008)
+*2008: [https://bb.oolite.space/viewtopic.php?p=57695#p57695 Selezen on engine plumes, Newtonian Physics, propulsion & artificial gravity] (2008)
-*2009: [http://www.aegidian.org/bb/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=5674 Oolite Engine Function Question]: both theories, musings about the inside of a ship (JameSpal), physics (KZ9999)
+*2009: [https://bb.oolite.space/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=5674 Oolite Engine Function Question]: both theories, musings about the inside of a ship (JameSpal), physics (KZ9999)
-*2010: [http://www.aegidian.org/bb/viewtopic.php?p=98756#p98756 See bottom of this post]
+*2010: [https://bb.oolite.space/viewtopic.php?p=98756#p98756 See bottom of this post]
-*2021: [http://www.aegidian.org/bb/viewtopic.php?p=274654#p274654 How does my Cobra's energy supply work?] Nite Owl's alternative theory
+*2021: [https://bb.oolite.space/viewtopic.php?p=274654#p274654 How does my Cobra's energy supply work?] Nite Owl's alternative theory
 This all comes under the general category of [[Handwavium]]
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 (This was all summed up much more neatly by [[User:Aegidian|Aegidian]], who described the drives as "burrow[ing] through the semi-rigid phlogiston leaving glowing subspace channels that heal at a constant rate, like hot boiled prunes through icy jelly.")
-A large enough mass of quirium, spun sufficiently fast, can distort spacetime to such an extent that it can tear open a wormhole. Again, the faster the quirium spins, the longer the wormhole. Accelerated to 99.9999...% of C (constantly topped up from an external tank, as the accelerated quirium decays), the wormhole can reach a full 7 light-years. If it was possible to spin the quirium faster than light, then theoretically the wormhole could be even longer – but it's not possible. ([http://www.aegidian.org/bb/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=7148 Explanations wanted!], 2009 ). </font>
+A large enough mass of quirium, spun sufficiently fast, can distort spacetime to such an extent that it can tear open a wormhole. Again, the faster the quirium spins, the longer the wormhole. Accelerated to 99.9999...% of C (constantly topped up from an external tank, as the accelerated quirium decays), the wormhole can reach a full 7 light-years. If it was possible to spin the quirium faster than light, then theoretically the wormhole could be even longer – but it's not possible. ([https://bb.oolite.space/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=7148 Explanations wanted!], 2009 ). </font>
 == OXPs ==

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 *2008: [http://www.aegidian.org/bb/viewtopic.php?p=57695#p57695 Selezen on engine plumes, Newtonian Physics, propulsion & artificial gravity] (2008)
 *2009: [http://www.aegidian.org/bb/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=5674 Oolite Engine Function Question]: both theories, musings about the inside of a ship (JameSpal), physics (KZ9999)
 *2010: [http://www.aegidian.org/bb/viewtopic.php?p=98756#p98756 See bottom of this post]
 *2021: [http://www.aegidian.org/bb/viewtopic.php?p=274654#p274654 How does my Cobra's energy supply work?] Nite Owl's alternative theory
 This all comes under the general category of [[Handwavium]]
 == OXPs ==

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 Trawling through the BB will reveal other such discussions.
 *2007: [http://www.aegidian.org/bb/viewtopic.php?p=39529#p39529 Disembodied's original theory] - see later discussion
 *2009: [http://www.aegidian.org/bb/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=5674 Oolite Engine Function Question]: both theories, musings about the inside of a ship (JameSpal), physics (KZ9999)
 *2009: [http://www.aegidian.org/bb/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=7148 Explanations wanted!]: see Disembodied's lengthy disquisition.
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 *2021: [http://www.aegidian.org/bb/viewtopic.php?p=274654#p274654 How does my Cobra's energy supply work?] Nite Owl's alternative theory
 == OXPs ==

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-The ionic repulsion drive is the standard mode of conveyance for most space vessels. The Cobra Mk III is fitted with two Kruger “lightfast” motors, each capable of 1.21 gigawatts power. This provides a top speed of just over 30 light mach.
+The ionic repulsion drive is the standard mode of conveyance for most space vessels. The Cobra Mk III is fitted with two Kruger “lightfast” motors, each capable of 1.21 gigawatts power. This provides a top speed of just over 30 [[Light Mach|light mach]].
 The motors are mounted either side of the ship's centreline in approximately the centre of the engineering section at the rear of the ship. The large plasma vents allow maximum yield of charged particles from the motors.
-The <font color="Red">'''w'''</font> and <font color="Red">'''s'''</font> controls on your Astrogation Console will increase or decrease the velocity.
+The <font color="Red">'''w'''</font> and <font color="Red">'''s'''</font> controls on your [[Astrogation Console]] will increase or decrease the velocity.
-The Main Engine/System Drive is the slowest of the three drives in your Cobra Mk III, the others being the Torus Drive and the Witchspace/Hyperspace Drive.
+The Main Engine/System Drive is the slowest of the three drives in your Cobra Mk III, the others being the [[Torus Drive]] and the Witchspace/[[Hyperspace Drive]].
 == Mechanics ==
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 *[[Q-Charger]] increases speed at a cost in both fuel and energy
-*[[Hard Way]] causes the engine to consume fuel in its operation.
+*[[Hard Way]] (part of the Strangers World suite of oxp's) causes the engine to consume fuel in its operation.
 *[[Breakable 'Standard' Equipment OXPs|Breakable Engines]] introduces a new breakable equipment '''System Drive''' listed on the Ship's Manifest.
-*[[Ship Configuration OXP]] allows a choice of 42 ship's engines with implications for cargo space and weight. There is also a choice of some 39 varieties of Thruster and 7 classes of booster. Warning: a very complicated OXP!
+*[[Ship Configuration OXP]] allows a choice of 42 ship's engines with implications for cargo space and weight. There is also a choice of some 39 varieties of Thruster and 7 classes of booster. Warning: a ''very'' complicated OXP!
 {{NavBox - Oolite Equipment}}[[Category:Equipment]]

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	*[[Ship Configuration OXP]] allows a choice of 42 ship's engines with implications for cargo space and weight. There is also a choice of some 39 varieties of Thruster and 7 classes of booster. Warning: a very complicated OXP!		*[[Ship Configuration OXP]] allows a choice of 42 ship's engines with implications for cargo space and weight. There is also a choice of some 39 varieties of Thruster and 7 classes of booster. Warning: a very complicated OXP!

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 == Mechanics ==
-How does the engine function? What is it that is actually coming out of the back of the 'thrusters' (blue-tinged something)? How can it work without using fuel? The traditional answers in Oolite circles involve the use of "handwavium". But note this: in Oolite much of what is, ''is'' because it is deemed to make the game more playable. [[Classic Elite]]'s engines worked in this same way, it was much more playable than the more realistic Newtonian [[Frontier]] family of games, so Oolite sticks with it - especially since the game started as a rewrite of Elite (with minor tweaks) for the AppleMac!).
+How does the engine function? What is it that is actually coming out of the back of the 'thrusters' (blue-tinged something)? How can it work without using fuel? The traditional answers in Oolite circles involve the use of [[Handwavium]]. But note this: in Oolite much of what is, ''is'' because it is deemed to make the game more playable. [[Classic Elite]]'s engines worked in this same way, it was much more playable than the more realistic Newtonian [[Frontier]] family of games, so Oolite sticks with it - especially since the game started as a rewrite of Elite (with minor tweaks) for the AppleMac!).
 There seem to be two main theories about the workings of the engine. These differ on their approach to Newtonian physics. The '''auto-compensation''' approach holds that the Newtonian underlying reality is masked by the astrogation computer, which corrects the flying experience to make it seem non-Newtonian. The '''phlogiston''' approach sticks with non-Newtonian physics and is rather more dramatic!

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	The Main Engine/System Drive is the slowest of the three drives in your Cobra Mk III, the others being the Torus Drive and the Witchspace/Hyperspace Drive.		The Main Engine/System Drive is the slowest of the three drives in your Cobra Mk III, the others being the Torus Drive and the Witchspace/Hyperspace Drive.
		+
		+	== Mechanics ==
		+	How does the engine function? What is it that is actually coming out of the back of the 'thrusters' (blue-tinged something)? How can it work without using fuel? The traditional answers in Oolite circles involve the use of "handwavium". But note this: in Oolite much of what is, ''is'' because it is deemed to make the game more playable. [[Classic Elite]]'s engines worked in this same way, it was much more playable than the more realistic Newtonian [[Frontier]] family of games, so Oolite sticks with it - especially since the game started as a rewrite of Elite (with minor tweaks) for the AppleMac!).
		+
		+	There seem to be two main theories about the workings of the engine. These differ on their approach to Newtonian physics. The '''auto-compensation''' approach holds that the Newtonian underlying reality is masked by the astrogation computer, which corrects the flying experience to make it seem non-Newtonian. The '''phlogiston''' approach sticks with non-Newtonian physics and is rather more dramatic!
		+
		+	See the discussion in [http://www.aegidian.org/bb/viewtopic.php?p=92038#p92038 2009]. The following points were made:
		+	*We have ''speed control'' rather than ''thrust control'' (phonebook)
		+	*Debate about a faulty auto-compensation theory, assuming retro-thrusters which the astrogation computer uses for ''correcting'' flight.
		+	*Our ships have big flaring jets of something blue and glowing coming out their rears, that get bigger when we go faster. But when we slow down, there are no big jets shooting out the front. Plus, again, no fuel is used – so these can't be rocket motors. We're forced to turn to technobabble and explain the rear jets away as being some sort of trailing wake of disturbed spacetime, left behind by our thoroughly non-Newtonian system drives ... (Disembodied)
		+	*''normal space-drives burrow through the semi-rigid phlogiston leaving glowing subspace channels that heal at a constant rate, like hot boiled prunes through icy jelly'' (Aegidian)
		+
		+	Trawling through the BB will reveal other such discussions.
		+	*2007: [http://www.aegidian.org/bb/viewtopic.php?p=39529#p39529 Disembodied's original theory] - see later discussion
		+	*2009: [http://www.aegidian.org/bb/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=5674 Oolite Engine Function Question]: both theories, musings about the inside of a ship (JameSpal), physics (KZ9999)
		+	*2009: [http://www.aegidian.org/bb/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=7148 Explanations wanted!]: see Disembodied's lengthy disquisition.
		+	*2010: [http://www.aegidian.org/bb/viewtopic.php?p=98756#p98756 See bottom of this post]
		+	*2021: [http://www.aegidian.org/bb/viewtopic.php?p=274654#p274654 How does my Cobra's energy supply work?] Nite Owl's alternative theory
		+

	== OXPs ==		== OXPs ==