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==== Ramirez (2007-12) ====
 
==== Ramirez (2007-12) ====

Revision as of 17:48, 14 September 2021

Here are some links to over 200 OXPs which are not in the in-game Expansions Manager. Maybe 150 work fully with Oolite v.1.90!

Tetiri's artificial planet ring (Ambience OXPs)
Graffiti Asteroids (Ambience - Art OXPs)
Traders Almanach entry for Lave (Equipment OXPs)

Note on Dates

  • 2004 First versions of Oolite come out. OXPs all written in legacy script. Ships, HUDs, missions, sounds, systems (Lave, Diso) etc all increasingly scriptable.
  • 2006 Linux & Windows versions come out in 2006 with the first stable release (v.1.65). Oosat hosts 70 OXPs (mostly ships).
  • 2007 v.1.67: Shaders. Initial introduction of Javascript.
  • 2011 v.1.76: First stable version since 2006 (Monkeyspider Javascript engine integrated for better OXPs). Solar systems more modifiable. Now well over 250 OXPs including TOGY.
  • 2014 v.1.80: Major Rejig: First "modern" version: OXZ's & Expansions Manager, better AI for NPCs (tough pirates!), many changes to core game (eg MFDs introduced).
  • 2015 v.1.82: New trading/commodities scripting deprecates older markets, but allows more tweaking. F3-F8 pages increasingly modifiable. Scenarios introduced (nobody writes one!)
  • The majority of changes since v.1.82 have focused on major improvements in graphics, not radical changes to gameplay.
Eg multiple lasers & mobile cameras were introduced with v.1.84, v.1.86 had better HUDs, v.1.88 had better fleeing AI, v.1.90 has more sophistication for weaponry & commerce.

List of Lists of .oxp's

This list overlaps with the more obscure elements of the OXP list. The OXZ list also overlaps with the updated versions of the OXP List.
For older lists (almost entirely of older versions of the oxp's listed above) see the bottom of this page. These may be needed if you are playing older versions of Oolite.

List of .oxp's

Some of New Deal's icons (Economics OXPs)
BPlanets' Onrira (Ambience OXPs)
Gsagostinho's experiments (Dockable OXPs)
Gsagostinho's experiments (Dockable OXPs)
Sothis station (Dockable OXPs)

Activities

  • Astronaut - put on a spacesuit, jump out of the orbital and see where you end up (hint: needs Planetfall)!
  • GalCop Rewards - Phantorgorth's lottery reward system to cut down on minor misdemeanours (2012)
  • Gas Giant Skimming: (Requirement: Ore Processor OXP by Eric Walch) Allows players to skim fuel, and possibly other commodities, from gas giant-type planets. See Deep Horizon collection below (2011)
  • Hermitage (Phkb, 2019) gives you the opportunity to own and manage your own Rock Hermit.
  • LaveInitialShipyard.oxz by Phkb (2020) - ensures that there will always be an Adder & a Cobra MkI on sale in the Lave shipyard.
  • Pirate Player.oxp by Phkb (2018) - one of his many experimental OXPs.
  • PirateTraps by popsch (2006 or earlier: see under other OXPs) - no license. No BB thread. Makes the game tougher.
  • Safe Docking - laws for docking and fines for transgressions by Phantorgorth (2012)
  • Solar Harvest (downloaded 83 times) by Ocz (2016): Skimming thread. The .oxp has tweaks such as preprocessed and processed plasmas!
  • Station Spotter OXP - an add-on to Stations for Extra Planets (and mentioned there) which tallies other stations visited in-system. (2017?).
  • Space Invaders Asteroids3D OXP - shoot-em up (but beware of the flying saucers). Thanks to Maik, our wiki-wizard, for a better link.
  • TrumbleTreats by Arexack Heretic (2010) - take the role of trumblepusher, breed the fluffy little blighters and sell them to unsuspecting locals and seasoned commanders who should know better. Buggy, alas!

• Economics & Trade

  • First Finance (downloaded 77 times) by Ocz: Beginning the game with a loan to pay off - the loan! (2014)
  • In-System Traders by Spara (2014) adds in-system traders to a system with such stations (eg other planets with stations).
  • Loan Repayment (downloaded 86 times) - the lenders! by Ocz as above (2014)
  • New Deal - Vincentz's attempt to rework the economics. Very nice icons! Unfinished (2015).
  • Real-life economics OXP - most recent OXP version end of page 4 of thread (2014).
  • Risky Business.oxz (Phkb's collection below, 2020) aims to make Multi-Gov, Feudal and Anarchy systems more rewarding for traders, by tweaking prices on a few goods. Goods that are already over the average could be increased. Goods that are below the average could be reduced. Not all goods will be impacted at all locations.
  • Ye Olde Hermit markets - Spara's rejig of the newer sparser rock hermit markets (just miners!) back to the older more profitable version (2015&17).

Ambience

  • Asteroids.oxp 2008 by Charlie and then Eric Walch. See BB Thread
  • BPlanets a 2.54 Gb .oxp (2020) detailing the 119 earth-like planets in Galaxy 1 using the new v.1.90 graphics capabilities
  • Cloud City OXP (2009) for gas giant planets by DrBeeb (unfinished)
  • Customise your ship by Amah (2014): new paint-jobs for cobras, anacondas & adders.
  • DarkSoul Nebulae a collection of some 10 nebulae from NASA for your skies
  • Deep Horizon - Systems v2.0.8 (Beta) Add additional planets and moons to your Ooniverse. Replaces the procedurally drawn planet textures with amazingly detailed custom textures. Also changes the appearance of the central star within each system. See Deep Horizon collection below
Low Resolution Texture Pack - 3/2/2011 (11.6 MB)
Standard Resolution Texture Pack - 3/2/2011 (22 MB)
  • Diso OXP by Murgh (2006) adds nebulae, planets, moons & a second orbital station (the first OXP to do any of this).
  • FarPlanets by Norby (2014) Your new pursuit is to deliver contracts to far planets, very far from the witchpoint. New Torus drives.
  • Ice asteroid by Griff - see here for discussion.
  • Lave OXP Learner pilots practice in Trinket ships near the station under the command of an instructor, Restaurant Junks ply their trade, Ad-Droids broadcast Ads, a small moon is added and more! (Murgh - before Feb 2006)
  • Lights Down: Lower the ambient light within the game for a more spacious feel. Also increases the ambient star count, and the intensity of nebulae within the game. See Deep Horizon collection below (2011)
  • Monument adds a monument to deceased commanders at the Lave system (Dajt, 2005).
  • Passenger Coms v0.5 by BryonArn (2014) - see here: talking to your passengers! This was later included by Phkb in his Enhanced Passenger Contracts.
  • PlanetForests.oxp & PlanetOceans.oxp for the Vanilla game: restores the image of the planet to match its description on the F7 page. Phkb (2019).
  • Random Docking Music OXP by Frame (2010).
  • Tetiri Planet Ring: artificial ring for Tetiri (2011-14) devised by P.A. Groove‎‎ & Thargoid.
  • Povray Planets a set of mapped systems for each galaxy (2012). Currently being updated for v.1.90 as BPlanets (see end of this BB thread).
  • Wrex by Arexack Heretic, and then Eric Walch (2006-8): Space wreckage

Art

Dockables

Equipment

Deeper Space HUD (HUDs & MFDs OXPs)
CRR (Coluber Red Racer) HUD
(HUDs & MFDs OXPs)
Sniper Camera System HUD
HUD (HUDs & MFDs OXPs)

HUDs & MFDs

Mechanics

  • Configurable Populator makes some populator settings easily adjustable (requires Oolite 1.84 and Library OXP). 110 downloads. Discussion here (2016).
  • Extended Shipyards by Capt. Murphy (2012). Allows test flights & ship hire. May no longer be compatible.
  • Friend or Foe by Tricky (2012). Enhances ship-group interaction. Requires some tweaking of ship scripts.
  • Pirate Ambushes: Introduces a new tactic for pirates in lower-government systems- Hijacking the Witchspace buoy and moving it to a more 'advantageous' position. See Deep Horizon collection below (2011).
  • Population Control.oxz (Phkb's collection below, 2019) is intended to limit the size of pirate groups in safer systems. The number of police patrols is also increased slightly.
  • Space Lane Adherance Bonus.oxz (Phkb's collection below, 2016) was intended as a way of dealing with the go off-lane to avoid pirates recommendation, normally given to new pilots who are struggling with combat in the early part of the game. It encourages staying on the witchpoint-to-planet spacelane by giving a small bonus to players who stay on or close to it.
  • Station Options by cag: a comprehensible oxp for tampering with the preferences of other oxp's, but alas, only a beta version (2018)

Miscellaneous

Another_Commander's blue-ish Bug (Miscellaneous OXPs)
SOTL: Hyperspace travel (Miscellaneous OXPs)

• Leaving the known Ooniverse

Missions

Retextures

Have you seen this page in the wiki: Installing multiple retexture OXPs?

Ships

Frog Space Rickshaw (Ships OXPs)
Mamushi version 0.4
Osoroshii version 0.3
  • Stealth Raiders (by Rustem 2019) - nastier foes in safer systems (beta)
  • WonderWorm adds 'Time Raiders' and a buyable version of their uber-ships. Not to be taken seriously! Smivs (2011)
  • Wyvern Ladies adds armed long-range transports Wyvern Empress & Wyvern Queen, and the Wyvern Princess escort - by Wyvern Mommy (2011)
  • Z-ships - 4 additional ships for the Ooniverse (2012)
  • Z GrOovy HPC pack (2014) Dertien's Cobra & Sidewinder with landing wheels and other bits you can shoot off!
  • Simon B's collections
  • Svengali's collection: Picks - Pallas (2012)
  • Svengali's collection: Picks - RoC Remorse Of Conscience v2 (2013)
  • Svengali's collection: Picks - RVandGS Renegade Viper and Grass Snake (2011)

Systems

Galactic Navy (Systems OXPs)
HIMSN (Systems OXPs)

Based on GN & HIMSN:

Based on HIMSN:

Weapons

Named Collections

Note on downloading from Box: if one cannot download individual oxp's from Box, try deselecting your desired oxp and clicking the "download" button in the top right corner of the page. You may be rewarded with a single bulky download of each and every file in that collection instead!
Alternatively, edit the name of the Box site, replacing http://www.box.net/... with http://app.box.net/...

  • These are listed in an approximate date order of newest oxps in each collection, oldest (2006/7) at the bottom.

Phkb (2014-21)

  • Phkb's experimental OXPs (see here for the links to the OXPs - and their discussions): 2021
CompressedJSON.zip is a utility designed for OXP developers. Many OXP's use JSON to package up data into the save game file, and then extract it again when loading the game. JSON is a rather bulky format, though, and it doesn't take long for your data to start making your save game file quite large. Compressed JSON simply reduces the amount of space the JSON data takes up, thereby reducing your save game file. See the readme file inside the ZIP for details on how to use it.
Hermitage.zip gives you the opportunity to own your own Rock Hermit.
Maintenance TuneUp.oxz provides the ability to do a maintenance tune up, even when the normal overhaul is not available.
Population Control.oxz is intended to limit the size of pirate groups in safer systems. The number of police patrols is also increased slightly.
Risky Business.oxz aims to make Multi-Gov, Feudal and Anarchy systems more rewarding for traders, by tweaking prices on a few goods. Goods that are already over the average could be increased. Goods that are below the average could be reduced. Not all goods will be impacted at all locations.
Space Lane Adherance Bonus.oxz was intended as a way of dealing with the go off-lane to avoid pirates recommendation, which is normally given to new pilots who are struggling with combat in the early part of the game. This OXP encourages players to stay on the witchpoint-to-planet spacelane by giving a small monetary bonus to players who stay on or close to it as much as possible.
PlanetForests.oxp & PlanetOceans.oxp for the Vanilla game: restores the image of the planet to match its description on the F7 page.

Rustem (2018-9)

  • Rustem's collection is on Box. Different versions of Orbits, with tweaks for some other oxps to align with Orbits. Also Norby's MicroGTorus. 11 oxp's.
  • Not in either his collection or the Expansions Manager is Stealth Raiders (2019) - nastier foes in safer systems

Svengali (2012-18)

Charlie's Pallas as rejigged by Svengali
  • Svengali's Collection on Box. 2016-8, but many from 2012. Seemingly a mix of stuff already posted for more general in-game use, with some more esoteric gubbins for .oxp programmers (for using Library, GNN etc). Over 120 files (some .oxps). His picks seem to be older files which he was maintaining.
Picks - Pallas (ship)
Picks - RoC Remorse Of Conscience v2 (2013) (ship)
Picks - WPB (2013) Old Witchpoint Buoy
Picks - RVandGS Renegade Viper and Grass Snake (2011)
Tools - CCL Materials Finder (for Cabal Common Library)
Developers Edge (Library) - Halsis2.oxp
Developers Edge (Library) - Lib Animator Demo.oxp
Developers Edge (Library) - Lib Music Orchestral Demo.oxp
Developers Edge (Resources) - CCL Overlays (Empty)
Developers Edge (Resources) - BGS i 15 files
Developers Edge (Resources) - BGS images (4.1Mb)

Griff (2009-18)

A note about Griff's collections: they are spread around. The box account linked below is the largest collection, but there are also Spara's collection of Griff's collections, in Ships above there is Griff's Organic Thargoids, and in Ambience, Ice Asteroid.

  • Griff's Collection: Griff is the official ship designer for Oolite: the vanilla game ships, stations etc are all his. It will probably be better to download his oxp's from the Expansion Manager... but if you are running an older version of Oolite, his collection may be helpful. If you are OXPing yourself, it should prove invaluable.
It includes such oddities as a burning alloy movie!

Stormrider (2014-17)

Stormbrewer (various versions)
Antient aliens
Witchfire taproom resources
Oogle Transporter

Norby (2013-17)

King Cobra HUD (Norby's Collection)
Isis HUD: see Isis Interstellar
vamp reduxed improved engine flame: see Isis Interstellar
spectre: Isis Interstellar's Vampire Mk V, a secret military vessel fighting Thargoids in witch space. By Killer Wolf, last updated in 2011.
phantom: a trader/fighter from Isis Interstellar with external missiles. By Killer Wolf, last updated in 2011.
Cobra IV: Isis Interstellar's successor to the Cobra MkIII, available in trader and fighter variants. By Killer Wolf, last updated in 2011.
SothisTC Mr Troomp's trading centres
Wasps adds formation flying wasps, queen wasps, and wasp nests
Isis Interstellar
Diamondback: see Isis Interstellar
Werewolf: see Isis Interstellar
Venom: see Isis Interstellar
Vamp3a: see Isis Interstellar
Nuit Space Station OXP
King Cobra

Keeper (2013-7)

  • Keeper's collection includes his HUD, KeeperSky.oxp, Chrysopelea (a ship) & NVSecurity (see Systems above). There are also some BGS sounds (Keeper is a professional musician).

SMax (2016)

  • These are just the originals of SMax's OXPs (which are now on the Expansions Manager).
Mandoman's Shuriken (Spara's Collection)

Spara (2015)

Spara has written some of the most crucial oxps dealing with trade, as well as a large number of others. But he also collects:

Moccasin
Shrike by CaptSolo - see here
Fighter HUD
Shuriken by Mandotech Industries
Scimitar by Smivs & Griff
Copperhead Yari - existed in 2012; on the wiki are only Copperhead & Copperhead Mk. II OXP
Copperhead
Isis HUD - Killer Wolf's HUD for his Isis ships
vamp reduxed improved engine flame - (Vampire)
Spectre - (Staer9 Spectre)
Phantom - a trader/fighter from Isis Interstellar with external missiles by Killer Wolf
Accipiter
  • Old OXP archive (2021) - Griff's original textures from before v.1.80/2014 and the OXZ format: 3 files:
Griff shipset resources
Griff shipset addition
Griff shipset replace

Amah (2014)

Amah's ocpc_custom_paintscheme_creation: the base OXP together with the retextures for the Cobras Mk I & III, the Anaconda and the Adder.

Condor (Charlie's collection)
Firefly (Charlie's collection)
Lampyris (Charlie's collection)
Merlin (Charlie's collection)

Zireael (2014)

Elite rank scanner - see how deadly your opponents are!
Frontier style map.oxp
Jameson Faces.oxp
New Style Dates.oxp (currently incorporated into Useful MFDs.oxp).

Eric Walch (2010-14)

OXPS for Oolite v1.74+ in Box: (2010-4): include TOGY with Steve Jobs, Dredger Showroom, Cargo Wreck Showroom and Final Capital
Older OXPS in Box: (2010-4): include Ringpod, Nukes, Oosounds Combined, Freaky Thargoids and Ixian ships

Thargoid (2009-14)

JazHaz's BackUps

JazHaz did a lot of the early work on this wiki. He also backed up many oxp's in his own collections:

Simon B (2011-13)

  • Simon Bridges' re2dux ships collection in Box
taniwha
oolific.oxp - the Oolite Princess liner
re2dux.oxp - his re2dux shipset
sb-navy - carriers & ancillary ships
wakapiko-redux
sb-faves (cobra variants)
re2dux-vipers
constrictor
sbdestroyer-pre2 - naval destroyer
ubertharg-pre1
katipo
  • Simon Bridges' neolites ships collection in Box
neotextures
neolite
wakatoro
wakapiko
typhoon
galcop
blade
arachnid
neolite-concepts
neolite-companion - rejigs of ships from the non-BBC Elite games (Bushmaster, Ghavial, Iguana etc)
neolite-wolfies - SB's rejig of Wolfwood's variants

Some of Simon B's ships were repackaged by CaptSolo for the Expansions Manager: see Simon B's Ships OXP

Okti's Long Range Scanner

Okti (2011-12)

SafeJumps warns if target system's sun has gone nova
Galaxy Info forerunner of Phkb's GalCop Galactic Registry & see BB thread here
Primable Laser - adds a second primable laser for clobbering the McNasties with!
Autoskim for automatic sunskimming
PirateEBomb: - cheat - kills every pirate in the system and then calls you a cheat!
Long Range Scanner - cheat - see everything in the star system
CargoScanner: Since updated by Timer and now on the Expansions Manager as Cargo Scanner OXP
OresratiChallenge: For getting to Sector8/Oresrati
InterstellarRescue
Pylon-based Equipment Remover Since rewritten by Phkb and now on the Expansions Manager as Remove Individual Pylon.
Target Tracker - cheat - an infallible tracker for laser targets!
Miner Pod OXP
SunSkimmerPod
OneWayTicket2Oresrati mentioned here. For getting to Sector8/Oresrati
LinkG7 Links to the lost part of G7 (some two dozen systems in the bottom left corner of the map). For navigating The Great Rift
  • Not in the Collection:
Colonization - massive dockable which you can fly through (also listed in Dockables, above)

Ramirez (2007-12)

Ramirez's original website has sundered (http://www.arcadia-digital.net/steve/Oolite/) but Wayback machine has preserved some pages.

Commander Cheyd (Deep Horizon) (2011)

Cratered Moon (Commander Cheyd's's Collection)
Deep Horizon - Systems v2.0.8 (Beta) Add additional planets and moons to your Ooniverse. Replaces the procedurally drawn planet textures with amazingly detailed custom textures. Also changes the appearance of the central star within each system.
Low Resolution Texture Pack - 3/2/2011 (11.6 MB)
Standard Resolution Texture Pack - 3/2/2011 (22 MB)
Lights Down: Lower the ambient light within the game for a more spacious feel. Also increases the ambient star count, and the intensity of nebulae within the game.
Pirate Ambushes: Introduces a new tactic for pirates in lower-government systems- Hijacking the Witchspace buoy and moving it to a more 'advantageous' position.
Gas Giant Skimming: (Requirement: Ore Processor OXP by Eric Walch) Allows players to skim fuel, and possibly other commodities, from gas giant-type planets.
DH's 3 other OXPs are already on the Expansions Manager

Charlie (2006-8)

Charlie's Collection
  • Charlie's Collection in Box: (2006-8): link thanks to cbr
Adds - 20 advertisements for Benulobiweed Inc. ships
For Ahruman - cobra and orb demos
Orb
Ships - Condor, Falcon, Kestrel, Merlin, Navy Starships (Navy Interceptor & Constitution), Pallas & Swift (with older versions)
Ordinance - empty
Black Hole - empty (unfinished project)
Beta - Asteroids & planets+moons (new skins - 2006): See plannets.oxp - is it still working? (2008)
Benulobiweed text - more on the background of this great company.
model-utilities.zip - Meshwork graphics (not a recommended package for post-v.1.65 Oolite).

Sabre (2007)

Biosphere OXP (Sabre's Collection)
Dredgers.oxp.zip 2007-07-05 10:29 1.9M The original Deep Space Dredger
Tardis_screenshot.jpg 2007-07-06 22:32 118K
bioSphere.oxp.zip 2007-07-05 10:29 321K Biosphere Thread (2011-2)
liberator.oxp.zip 2007-07-23 23:35 857K 4 front mounted military lasers and 3 rear mounted turrets! Blake 7!
liberator_screenshot.jpg 2007-07-23 23:35 78K
shreddies.oxp.zip 2007-07-05 10:27 433K Breakfast Cereals (2009)
tardis.oxp.zip 2007-07-05 10:17 114K Dr Who! Tardis OXP (2007)
tardis_model.zip 2007-07-06 21:06 127K
tribant.oxp.zip 2007-07-05 10:27 1.7M (Trader)
velocity.oxp.zip 2007-04-28 00:59 248K Velocity OXP

Oosat 1 (2006)

Oosat 2 died twice losing all content!

Stuff for Programmers

  • CompressedJSON.zip (Phkb's collection above, 2016) is a utility designed for OXP developers. Many OXP's use JSON to package up data into the save game file, and then extract it again when loading the game. JSON is a rather bulky format, though, and it doesn't take long for your data to start making your save game file quite large. Compressed JSON simply reduces the amount of space the JSON data takes up, thereby reducing your save game file. See the readme file inside the ZIP for details on how to use it.
  • See Norby's, Svengali's & Phkb's collections above for a large assortment of tools
  • CAG's javascripts collection on Box (c. 2018) for reducing garbage collection.
  • frames/second monitor by CAG on DropBox.
  • Planet rotation tester.oxp by Eric Walch (2010): BB thread.
  • Mission Offering Protocol & Manual by Eric Walch (2007): BB thread.
  • Griff's resources for those designing ships (2010-8).
  • Legacy script comes in two versions: XML & OpenStep. Commander Jettison wrote 2 small programmes for translating the more opaque XML into OpenStep which you can find here (2011-17). The older version is on the first page, the newer on the third page of the thread.


Debug OXP (menu for AppleMac)
  • Debug OXP for Mac & other systems (Phkb, 2018) (The linked GitHub download is dated 2011, "for Windows XP and above").
  • Debug Console for Python and Windows (CAG, 2020)

Oddities


GalCop Health Warnings

  • The major rejigs of Oolite under Cim in 2014 (v.1.80) & 2015 (v.1.82) broke many unmaintained older .oxp's.
  • Many early threads were lost due to the Great Deletion before Aug 2008.

Links